Schools: 1stXV Rankings 2013/14 Week 7

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November 29, 2013

As results pan out to more accurately reflect each team’s ability, week 7 doesn’t show many major leaps and bounds but smaller movements with teams close to one another: At the top, the top-four remain as they were . . .

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4 responses to “Schools: 1stXV Rankings 2013/14 Week 7”

Nipper

November 29, 2013

How come when Ballymena got beaten well by CIA 29 – 6 (if I recall correctly) they didn’t drop places?

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1. Nathan
  
  November 30, 2013
  
  Yes, that was the result, but I’m unsure why you’re asking under this post. Anyway, just because a team wins/loses does not mean they will automatically go up/down; it depends on the exact nature of the result and the other results around them.
  In any sort of league system it possible to win and stay in the same position evn though your score increases.
  
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  1. Nipper
    
    November 30, 2013
    
    Ok I’m going to make this as easy as I can. RSA gets BEATEN 67 – 0 and they jump UP 3 places to 5th. Ballymena plays Bel 4v5 the same week and Ballymena win by a a few points. And Bel dropped to 7th I think? In later weeks Ballymena play a team CIA and lose well 29 – 6 and don’t move when CIA are a good few rankings behind them. Bel beat RSA well 37 -14 and move back to 5th. I’m sorry but I’m looking for some kind of common sense out of this but it’s not coming? I would have thought if u were beaten by a team a lot lower than you you would lose ground as it happened to others previously and teams that get smashed by mountains of pounts shouldn’t under any circumstances move up places. Cheers
    
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    1. Nathan
      
      December 1, 2013
      
      Ok, so the most important thing to remember with these rankings are that they are designed to rank a team as an estimation of a ‘complete’ league season i.e. every team playing every other team at least one. So, win percentages are graded against opponents played in order to determine how valuable results are.
      
      Now, this means that a team can play a stronger team, lose and STILL go up the rankings because, by playing a stronger team, their points from opponents played has increased their score; this is what had happened in the example of RS Armagh you give above.
      
      The example of RS Armagh is also a strange one in that on the week in question, Weeks 4 & 5, a few teams were on very similar totals and so a few points here and there could make a big difference; in this particular case, if RS Armagh had scored only 5 points less they would in fact have stayed in 8th position.
      
      The system is obviously not perfect. Every year we try to improve upon using past experience and suggestions from people like yourself, so thanks for asking about it.
      At the moment we are trying to work around problems like this to make it more accurate so maybe once next year’s rankings get underway we will have worked out a few more ‘bugs’.
      
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