CONTINUITY DEWI?

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To ask the dour, sarcastic and highly sceptical Ulster supporter to have faith is a bit like waving a red rag to a bull. Finger pointing and conspiracy theories sits so much more comfortably with us (if you only knew half the drivel I have to discount each week when I write my, er, drivel) that faith in the ability of those in charge is as rare as a Celtic shirt on the Shankill, but that is what’s needed. One only has to look at the ignominious departure of Mark McCall, one of Ulster’s most successful sons – on and off the pitch, to see where our lack of faith has got us. The same should not happen with current coach Matt Williams and shame on us if it does!

Normal service has resumed after last week’s aberrated attempt to be funny. Some things haven’t changed, as for consecutive weeks Dewi continues to invoke debate with his frontline pieces on Ulster’s performance on the pitch. I wish to take our inestimable editor to task this week, all in the best possible taste of course, in an attempt to stimulate or should that be simulate debate given the lack of response from the ‘dour, sarcastic and highly sceptical supporters’. For weeks running up to the Cardiff game Dewi’s match reports have been questioning of the Ulster performance on the pitch and the sayings of our coach off it. I’m surprised to find he has suffered an almost volte face with a rallying cry to Ulster’s fans this week to get behind the coach and UR.

I do not agree Mark McCall was one of our most successful sons, in fact I think his appointment as coach set Ulster rugby back years in development because of the lack of control of the dressing room that became ever more apparent as the seasons slipped by. His departure was indeed ignominious but that could have been avoided had someone in authority bit the bullet and fired the coach earlier. I met Mark McCall on a few occasions and he was never more than sincere with the supporters and you would not question his commitment to Ulster rugby. As a person he was beyond reproach and I wouldn’t for one moment seek to rubbish him in that way. What I do question is the appointment of an inexperienced coach to a provincial team. Until he coached Ulster, McCall’s head coach experience was with Ballynahinch, hardly a solid grounding for the rigours of Provincial coaching I would suggest.

With Solomons putting in place a solid foundation for the progression of Ulster Rugby it was some surprise, to me at any rate, that he was not allowed to fulfill that quest and Ulster Rugby, led by Mike Reid appointed an inexperienced coach. It would be fair to say winning the Celtic League was the highlight of McCall’s coaching tenure but one must also say he struck lucky and in the main, the momentum of the Solomons era frittered away, finally ending in the ignominy of dressing room squabbles and lack of authority.

We are still making up for lost time and I do agree with Dewi we must show faith in the current coach. Rome, to coin a cliché wasn’t built in a year and I’m pretty optimistic that in a few seasons we will be challenging at the top table. Depressing as the Cardiff loss was, it is startling to think that after Paddy Wallace went off our backline featured from the scrum half outwards players of the following age – 23, 21, 21, 22, 24 plus the vets Danielli and Schifoske. Our back row, 23, 23, 22. In the tight five there was no one over 30. Of course Williams bangs on about the youth of the players but he has a point.

A footie cliché springs to mind which has a ring of truth about it. Alan Hansen once famously said something along the lines of youngsters don’t win championships and was confounded when Manchester United did win it. In general he’s right though and we lack a few older heads in there to steady the ship when the pressure is on. In particular we cannot simply play 8, 9, 10 and 12 with an average age of 22. It is too many youngsters in key positions without the necessary experience. If we are looking for a 10 then so be it, he needs to be a wise old bird who will bring experience to bear on youthful heads. Likewise down the spine of the team there needs to be a backbone of experience.

Arsene Wenger remarked something along the lines that he was a coach to his players but he wasn’t their friend and that perhaps is something Williams has brought to bear in the current set up and friendship probably was the undoing of Mark McCall. A certain ruthlessness permeates all successful professional coaches and at least one believes Matt Williams has that attribute. He needs time and as Dewi rightly points out support from us the supporter. One feels though he needs support, unreserved from Ulster rugby and its Chief Executive if we are to grow as a club.

Watching Munster trip up against Leinster, the thought of another sporting cliché rang out loud which was that when you are at the top it is the time to start planning for future success. Where Ulster’s team is laced with youngsters, Munster’s is full of old heads that must be replaced sooner rather than later, especially in the pack and at outhalf. If Munster Rugby aren’t planning replacements for Hayes, Wallace, Horan, Quinlan and O’Gara right now then I think we are witnessing the decline of a truly outstanding rugby side. Leinster seem to have a nice blend of youth and experience, foreigner and home bred star but one cannot avoid the feeling that if they go out with anything less than 100% commitment they will crash to the top teams. Munster undoubtedly played below their best though that is not to detract from the Leinster performance.

Last week I mentioned the Lunsters and surely there are a few less of them after Saturday. Of course the UAFC caught up with me yesterday when a well known poster mentioned Ulster folk wearing Munster shirts and not Ulster ones, the suggestion of this poster was that Ulster were unattractive, not so much from a rugby perspective but political. This has become a rather tiresome refrain in my eyes as anyone can support this team or that and if they are making a political point in not supporting Ulster, then let them get on with it. As ever flags came into it but as on Saturday all those Munster and Leinster rugby flags fluttering in the breeze made me wonder why some get hung up on the flag issue when it comes to Ulster rugby. It may sound over simplistic but why not buy an Ulster rugby flag, if such a thing exists and fly the bladdy thing, It may be possible there’ll be a few detractors and whingers about it, but it’s a no brainer, if Munster and Leinster can fly their provincial rugby flag then so can we.

Finally I attended a poorly attended URSC barbecue yesterday. For a fiver there was good food, company and a Heineken semi to watch. Disappointing there were no players in attendance though some of the UR girls/women turned up. Myself and my daughter paid our fiver in and bought ballot tickets. For the first time in a decade or more I won a ballot and briefly had 2 international tickets to a match at Lansdowne Road. That was until Kimble informed me I wasn’t a URSC member and wouldn’t be getting the tickets. Not too overly concerned at losing the tickets but at least the URSC could have awarded me another prize. Not making clear the rules beforehand was poor form but denying me and the daughter any kind of prize at all having won the ballot was irredeemable. All fine and dandy, we all know each other in respect of the URSC but I wonder had some other guy turned up and been treated like this would they have acquiesced so easily.

The lack of membership attendance at URSC events is a cause for concern, certainly it would appear so to Lord Kimble and rightly so given the hundreds in the membership it is mysterious why so few bother their ass to get off it and attend. Seems we non members as happened on the recent bus trip to Dublin make up the numbers.

As BJ Botha might suggest whilst scanning the shelves at Homebase, chat soon.


17 responses to “CONTINUITY DEWI?”

  1. Grumps

    Note the lack of comment on any of my other points.

    Maybe that’s because he can’t substantiate his own or repudiate mine

  2. Ballpark

    Grumps has decided to finish his missive with a barbed joke about throwing toys out of the pram. Seems a fair reflection of his piece.

  3. Grumps

    BP said, “I took the trouble to come out and support the URSC, not for the first time this season unlike the hundreds of members who couldn’t get off their ass”

    BP – this event was the URSC organizing something for the benefit of any fans that cared to come to it – it never was about “supporting URSC”. If you want to “support” the URSC, why don’t you join it?

    BP said, “it doesn’t save me money to go on the URSC bus, I actually pay more than the members for the privelege of travelling on the bus”

    I think it would still cost you less than if there was no URSC bus at all. Those members who pay less than you to travel on the bus have ALREADY paid more than the difference in the prices by paying their membership fee, so theoretically it could have cost THEM more.

    BP said, “A fair few of the people travelling on the bus to Leinster were non members and I suggest without their support there won’t be a bus next time given the apathy of the URSC membership”

    Care to substantiate that? You know the breakdown of members/non-members travelling, do you?
    The “next time” has already happened and there wasn’t a great uptake, but it STILL WENT – and, guess what? – At most there was one non-member on board – it may well be that it was 100% members only.

    Can i suggest that the next time you plan to attend a URSC event, you give warning? It would be useful to put up warning signs advising members and non-members alike to be careful of the toys on the floor, or better still, allow the pram to be moved somewhere safer.

  4. Grumps

    “Myself and my daughter paid our fiver in and bought ballot tickets. For the first time in a decade or more I won a ballot and briefly had 2 international tickets to a match at Lansdowne Road.”

    For the avoidance of doubt, the fact that you bought ballot tickets is totally irrelevent to your complaint BP. Had any of the tickets you BOUGHT been drawn, you would have won the allotted prize. It was made clear at the time, and it has become established practice that the type of draw you refer to is actually a FREE draw for which separate tickets are issued. To the best of my knowledge, everyone issued with a ticket was asked if they were a member. This was deemed the quickest and easiest way to do this, given that the tickets for the match would not be issued until next year – plenty of time to check eligibility for the prize. I do NOT suggest any malpractice on your part – if you were not asked, or did not hear the question, I accept your word for that, but your expectation of a substitute prize is ridiculous. There were no suitable substitutes and to expect ANY prize in a draw that you are inelligable for is absurd – UNLESS YOU WOULD ACCEPT A FREE TAXI RIDE HOME AFTER THE EVENT, COURTESY OF URSC. (Oh, I forgot – you DID get that!!!!)

  5. Freddie Benson

    Where did I insinuate deceitfulness on your part BP? Nowhere, absolutely nowhere.
    I was merely trying to point out that the international ticket ballot has long been part of the benefits of membership of URSC. Posters at Ravenhill also advertised that fact, as did Stand Up.
    I WAS asked if I was a member before being handed my ticket. I don’t know if you or your daughter were or not as I was not at the table at the time. If you say you weren’t, fine – good enough for me.
    I think there was no other option than to have a redraw once the error was realised.

  6. Ballpark

    Your quite right Dewi, Ulster needs everybody, even the Mulsters will be welcomed back now that their adopted team failed to go all the way.

    For the record i was asked if i was a URSC member but only when they held the redraw.
    I of course was honest and said i wasn’t since Kimble was standing behind me with a big stick!!

  7. Mr Wolf

    Bally, Surely even smug but so innocent a person as yerself KNOWS its a cheap way for YOU to travel rather than going under your on steam ie public transport! but then again i am cynical

  8. Now, come on everyone. It is our duty as loyal/true/real Ulster supporters to be positive about our rugby experience and to be inclusive of all types under the banner of the rugby fraternity! Nexty thing you know people from Armagh will be supporting Munster! So less of the bickering Parky and Wolf man and more bigging (up) of the great times you have supporting Ulster. :0)

    Seriously though, my mates on the URSC do a great job supplying very cost effective transport for one and all to the Irish and Scottish games and true the take up is very disappointing. We should be putting our heads together to see how we can improve this rather than argue amongst ourselves. (And while supplying cheerleaders on every bus may be a worthy ambition I don’t think it is a viable option at present.) There is so much more to away trips than the actual game, as you can see from our extensive Galleries.

    Maybe one of you could submit a glowing report of your trip to Galway for next weeks edition!

  9. Ballpark

    Cry wolf or what, it doesn’t save me money to go on the URSC bus, I actually pay more than the members for the privelege of travelling on the bus. A fair few of the people travelling on the bus to Leinster were non members and I suggest without their support there won’t be a bus next time given the apathy of the URSC membership.

  10. Mr Wolf

    Ballpark is ignorance an excuse? every one at my table was asked if they were a member as were them at the table nearby. maybe it suit you to be half in, half out so it saves you money to jump on the URSC bus next time a bus goes to Leinster go on your own steam i bet its a lot dearer and less convenient than one organised for you, so i would put my self out on a limb here to say you only use the buses as it is cheap and convenient!!

  11. Ballpark

    Hi Dewi et al thanks for the responses.
    Dewi, sorry about the slightly ambiguous headline, no-one will connect you with terror or that sort of thing, just trying to grab the attention of our insomnia type supporters. I guess we’ll have to disagree on McCall, I thought he was given enough time to develop, he was in his 4th season when he resigned, I think. He will do well i’m sure at Saracens and the crucial difference is he is there as assistant coach. In terms of experience I felt he wasn’t ready for head coach which carries a far more complex position given the man management skills required for example. Perhaps his time will come some years down the line.

    Williams is on a 3 year contract and has just finished his first full season having said he needed 3 years to turn things around. So I see no reason why he should be subject to abuse any more than McCall should have been. Mind i agree 5th place in the League is a boast too far and I agree with Dewi on a 7th 8th place finish with the Cardiff Blues likely to make up for lost time by playing a near full team in most of the remaining matches. He is obviously working within certain restraints just as McCall was, hence the youthful flavour to the team, I think the difference will be in the greater experience Williams has in turning that inexperience into a fully functioning outfit.

    Many problems appear to lie beyond the coach, such as supporter apathyamong other things. I wrote in an earlier blog about how UR treats the supporter as a commercial commodity and how something of the family feel that surrounded UR has been lost since around the time of McCall’s resignation and all the baggage that went with it. There is some evidence in UR’s approach to season tickets as outlined TT above. If UR treat the supporters as a commercial commodity then I’m sure there’ll be a commensurate commercial response from them.

    Freddie Benson – Wise up man, your post is a disgrace in that you insinuate that I was deceitful in not owning up to being a non member of the supporters club. For the record, I’m not aware of being asked at the table if i was a member until after i’d won the tickets when Kimble woke up and reacted with alarcity when he remembered i wasn’t a member. (Perhaps i didn’t hear though my daughter didn’t either ).

    I trawled the UAFC site before finding concrete evidence of a barbecue taking place having originally been told about it on the bus to the Leinster match but with no specific date available. If there was a publicity blurb for the Barbecue then I missed it therefore I can say hand on heart i did not know the tickets were for members only. There was actually a list of prizes on a handout lying on the table I was seated at and there was no mention on it of the tickets prize at the top of the list being for members only.

    If the club is to attract supporters as suggested by TT then ballot fiascos like Sunday won’t do the trick. I took the trouble to come out and support the URSC, not for the first time this season unlike the hundreds of members who couldn’t get off their ass so i don’t feel guilty in any way in having legitimately won tickets in a ballot at the supporters club.

  12. Freddie Benson

    In fairness to the committee, the publicity ‘blurb’ for the BBQ did state that the ballot for international tickets was only open to members, although the event as a whole and the rest of the excellent prizes was open to all who attended. Also, when my ticket for the international ticket ballot was handed out, it was mentioned that it was for members only. I guess it was left up to individuals to declare if they were members or not before accepting a ticket for this ballot.

  13. I drifted along to the poorly attended URSC BBQ yesterday, well actually it was just after kick-off but I bought my ballot tickets (as a URSC member) & was disappointed when I didn’t win the tickets at half-time to the “Aviva Stadium”!!!! Imagine my surprise when I was informed that the URSC committee had made a “bit of a bollocks” and that a 2nd draw would take place, this being restricted to members only – Well really, what are they playing at : Shades of right & left hands……… While the URSC committee does a reasonably good job, falling membership numbers are just a reflection of the apathy which is worryingly evident amongst supporters who have sampled the good and the (too many) bad times in the last 10 years. I, after much soul searching, paid for my season ticket on time on 17th April but many of my fellow season-ticketers have decided against renewal, being inclined to attend the “big matches”, indeed a 25% reduction from our group is a very worrying for Ulster Rugby – As the advertisement at the entrance used to say when the portcullis to Fortress Ravenhill was in the raised position: “Be Afraid, Be Very Afraid” – Mike Reid take not.

    The days when revenue from Ulster Rugby followers could be taken for granted are, I’m sorry to say, gone & if those in positions of power @ Ravenhill are not already aware of this then they soon will be. Interestingly for days after the somewhat early 17th April payment cut off date, those season ticketers who had not responded to cross the Fat Controller’s minions palms with the desired 30 pieces of silver, were contacted by telephone to be asked if they would be renewing ….NOT why or what might persuade them to perhaps reconsider!!!!!

    Frustrated is not the word to describe yet another disappointing season, despite the false dawns of Harlequins at Home & most particularly Munster Away – which I’m sure will never be forgotten, but compared to Leinster’s triumph against the Bogmen on Saturday they pale into major insignificance.

    I had thought of a subscription to Setanta and a regular seat in the warmth of my living room but sure I’d miss the crack in the Scoop, such as there still is, but that’s another story for another day. All comments on the latter will be gratefully received.

  14. Raging Raven

    Yes , he is bound to have a few mates who’s youngster’s would like an Ulster cap! LOL

  15. I think it’s more likely that we’ll finish 7th or 8th and Matt does himself no favours in the Tele with his prediction of fifth as that is no way guaranteed even if we do win our last two matches. Something like “We’ve had an up and down season but we’ve qualified for the Heiny and we’re going to use the last few games to have a look at the youngsters”, would have gone down a lot better in my book.

    Now calm down you mad b@stard or you’ll be walking to Galway!

  16. Raging Raven

    The only thing surprising in this debate is the lack of abuse directed at Matt Williams on match days. It says much for the spin Matt can put on even the most horrendous results. He should think about a career in Politics or car sales.

    The highlights of his coaching expertise this season where in Newport when he single handedly coached a defeat from an easy win with ludicrous substitutions and in Paris where he failed to appreciate how important a first win on French soil would be for the whole organization and picked an under strength team.

    But the cream on the cake was the ” show me your coaching badges” rant. Anyone can get a coaching badge but it is results we want and he aint got them. He failed to get an outstanding Leinster team to the Holy Grail of European Rugby ,failed miserably with Scotland and is on target for a 9 place finish in the Magners League not the 5 place finish he is spinning in the Belfast Telegraph today.

    Its time for Matt to smell the coffee.

  17. At the risk of stifling debate before it begins I don’t think there is a lot in your post that we disagree with Parky. Except of course Mark McCall!!

    It is interesting you point to McCall’s lack of experience in one paragraph and then laud the relative youth of the current side and ask for patience in the next.

    All I’ve ever pointed out was that McCall should have been given more time to develop as a coach and I am convinced to this day and that, if he had been given the same amount of support as the current coach, he would have turned things around. It will be interesting to see how he develops at Saracens and the best of luck to him.

    On win ratios alone he is Ulster’s most successful coach of the professional era and the development of the bulk of the youngsters you have chosen to highlight started under his tenure.

    At the end of the day all I was trying to say in last weeks puff piece was that, while it is easy to be critical of poor performances (as I have been), the deteriorating financial situation for Ulster Rugby has become so severe that it is time for us all to rally round the team and vote with our wallets as we are falling further and further behind our competitors. While we all like a grumble it is time for us all to wake up and face the financial realities.

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